Jenna Kutcher might have 800+ followers on Instagram but beyond her beautifully curated feed is a badass businesswoman who has successfully mastered eight streams of revenue—for context, apparently millionaire’s have at least 7). So, of course, we couldn’t wait to hear all about how the photographer, podcaster, and new mom did it, and she didn’t hold back.

“I don’t want to show up because I’m getting paid I want to show up because I want to be in the room. I do everything out of my desire to create impact not income.” Now, who’s feeling inspired?

Jaclyn Johnson is the founder and CEO of Create & Cultivate, author of WorkParty, and host of the WorkParty podcast.